Where we help you discover your own perfect recipes.

A new podcast from Deb Perelman (Smitten Kitchen) and J. Kenji López-Alt (Serious Eats, The Food Lab, The Wok).

Deb Perelman, Smitten Kitchen

“If it's got 22 ingredients and uses four bowls, my hunt for the perfect recipe isn't over yet.”

Hi, we’re Deb and Kenji.

We’re professional home cooks, which means we can - and will - make the same meal 57 times in a row on the quest for the perfect recipe. Is it crazy? For us, no, because we do this for a living. But for you? Yes, probably. Which is why you should listen to The Recipe with Kenji and Deb. You'll hear us talk about what goes into writing our recipes — the techniques we test, the ingredients we taste — so that you can be on your way to creating your own perfect recipe. Whether you're cooking meatloaf, pancakes, or chicken soup in all its forms, we got you, and you've got this.

J. Kenji López-Alt, The Food Lab, The Wok, Serious Eats

“I am guilty of creating recipes with 22 ingredients and more than four bowls. But for me, recipes are just the beginning. It's really the techniques behind them that help you become a more adaptable cook.”

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